Curse

Thomas.knbk · Dec 11, 2006, 02:20 PM // 14:20

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Originally Posted by I Write Sins

and uhm..Eviscreate > Decapitate...lose ALL adren AND energy ...if u dont kill in one hit ur pretty much gai'd

That's called a spike, and it's exactly what Decapitate is meant for. You can switch weapons as well if you like to, so you have energy to follow up with a Critical Chop.

pug_ster · Dec 11, 2006, 07:10 PM // 19:10

Auspicious Parry is probably one of the better war elites. With high tactics of 13, you gain 4 adrenaline for every 2 seconds and the attack is blocked. Enough adrenaline for Watch Yourself and Riposite. I made a build around that for my hero and you only need one tank in your party.

I Write Sins · Dec 11, 2006, 10:33 PM // 22:33

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Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk

That's called a spike, and it's exactly what Decapitate is meant for. You can switch weapons as well if you like to, so you have energy to follow up with a Critical Chop.

jajaja but cant most groups successfully spike w/ eviscreate

and i'd be too dumb to remember to switch ne ways lol...

and as for teh guy under him...stance wars sawk in pvp homie, unless ur like RA war vs war-ing...but if u cant kill a monk ur pretty much uselessness and
a sword [[seeing as ur going riptose]] / tatics wars dont usually carry enough
dmg to kill a "decent"-monk ~ and if u were going for the 1v1 War build... Gladiators defence would probably show to be more effective dmg wise ~ and u'd need like a low lvl shock incase u just happen to be vsing a noob w/ the same build, to interrupt his heal sig so u dont have to worry about him throwing up deadly riptose at the last second...

Signet of Illusions is questionable ~ i could see it being good in some cases but imo mesmers are getting the shaft end of the goods ~ most their good ones come from proph ~ and Keystone Signet dont deserve to be an elite imo...its kinda like...mantra of signets...for all ur signets...im sure mantra of signets -> keystone signet would be nice if u could carry 2 elites....[[spam SoJ ~ would be uber annoying]]

but jajaja ~ before i make myself look any more nubbier imma go get mai r8 today ^^ juss 16 fame away <3

warpedheat101 · Dec 12, 2006, 12:45 AM // 00:45

The Power is Yours

Hanging Man · Dec 12, 2006, 02:32 AM // 02:32

cant stand quick shot seems so pointless

pug_ster · Dec 15, 2006, 04:06 AM // 04:06

Worst elite must be Expert's Dexterity. Quickening Zephyr works better and it is not even an elite.

Buzzer · Dec 15, 2006, 04:47 AM // 04:47

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Originally Posted by Hanging Man

cant stand quick shot seems so pointless

Why does everyone say this? :/
Use the skill before commenting.

bhavv · Dec 20, 2006, 12:53 PM // 12:53

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Originally Posted by Nero

"The Power Is Yours!"

the captain planet reference elite should've been better

110% the worst elite ever. Party gains 8 energy each, you get -10 degen for 10 seconds WTF???

Compare this to the other para energy support skills - Aria of Zeal gives instant energy the next time you cast a skill, Never Surrender gives energy to everyone below 75% health, following this trend an elite version should give free energy without any condition. But -10 regen for 10 seconds???

Were anet drunk and on crack when they made this skill?

bhavv · Dec 20, 2006, 01:09 PM // 13:09

Ok, ive now read every post on this page and have the following to say on some stupid comments:

1) Quickshot - Use this with called shot and read the wind on a Rt/R with max warmongers weapon. Just do it. Attack monks. PWNZORRED OMG!!!

2) Energy boon - I recently thought I would give this skill a go on my my air spike and guess what? It works very nicely, keeps my energy topped up all the time with air attunement, and is very nice.

3) Master of Magic - Was whoever read the skill description for this and called it a crap elite blind? Use this + ice prison on an air spiker. 4 energy return per air skill used. I recently used this in HA on dual smite with 2 E/Mo master of magic smiters. With the elite, and 3 long recharge smite skills you get a net return of 7 energy (Zealots fire -1) per RoF, Gaurdian and Draw conditions used. Energy NEVER runs out untill it wears off, then be careful for 6 secs before recasting it.

4) Gust - I thought this was a bad skill untill i bothered to make and play a build using it. Here goes:

Enervating Charge, Stoning, Grasping earth, Gust, Gale, air att, earth att, res sig. It needs 2 attunements to prevent serious energy degen but when used correctly your target will be on the floor PERMANANTLY.

Bankai · Dec 20, 2006, 08:51 PM // 20:51

I was reading the last post, and saw he had to explain why Master of magic isn't a bad skill.

It's freaking awesome. MoM smiters. Also other stuff.

gabrial heart · Dec 20, 2006, 09:02 PM // 21:02

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Originally Posted by Arcador

Quickshot is actually quicker than all shots except interupts. Called is normal attack speed but flyes faster. Anyway if they remove the reset attack time after the quick shot, it may become usefull.

And now the winner is...

SPOIL VICTOR!!!!
Go look at the discription, check several other necro spells, even mesmer one sand then try to think another.

Ummm you're kidding right?

gabrial heart · Dec 20, 2006, 09:27 PM // 21:27

I think out of all the monk elites P&H is the worst. Some here said famine for a ranger, but it's uber nice running e-denial mesmers, as a monk i hate famine and qz...gah

clawofcrimson · Dec 21, 2006, 05:57 PM // 17:57

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Originally Posted by warpedheat101

The Power is Yours

agreed...this skill sucks a fat toe...why waist an elite on it

keep the good captain in the cartoons where he belongs....

(earth , wind, fire, HEART? (hated that kid) water)

Divineshadows · Dec 21, 2006, 08:00 PM // 20:00

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Originally Posted by clawofcrimson

(earth , wind, fire, HEART? (hated that kid) water)

No, you got it all wrong. Everyone knows the fifth element is BALLS....

Thomas.knbk · Dec 21, 2006, 10:08 PM // 22:08

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Originally Posted by gabrial heart

Ummm you're kidding right?

I think he's not.
You see, SV used to do like 40 dmg, but it got a HUGE buff with NF. probably the biggest buff ever. It really used to suck before that.

Alleji · Dec 22, 2006, 04:01 AM // 04:01

I used to say quick shot (because it does nothing) but after NF, I'd have to change my vote to wastrel's collapse.

Why?

Well, it does nothing. And quick shot at least damages people just like a normal arrow.

djbartek · Dec 22, 2006, 03:25 PM // 15:25

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Originally Posted by Alleji

I used to say quick shot (because it does nothing) but after NF, I'd have to change my vote to wastrel's collapse.

Why?

Well, it does nothing. And quick shot at least damages people just like a normal arrow.

QFT Wastrel's Collapse is the worst, with Seeping Wound being a close second.

Made In Ascalon · Dec 22, 2006, 09:43 PM // 21:43

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Originally Posted by djbartek

QFT Wastrel's Collapse is the worst, with Seeping Wound being a close second.

Holy hell, I just looked at that skill for the first time. That would be sucky as a normal skill.

Thomas.knbk · Dec 22, 2006, 09:48 PM // 21:48

Holy Crap, yeah.
Someone would have to use no skills for 5 SECONDS in order for that skill to have effect? You're kidding me?
And quickshot DOES do something. it doubles your DPS.

warriorsmiley · Dec 22, 2006, 10:09 PM // 22:09

Someone said something about signet of illusion being a bad elite. You can take it as a primary mesmer dump points into illusion fast casting and inspiration and abuse secondary skills with it without investing a single skill point into the attribute. For example you can take a Mes/Ele and take skills like wards blinding flash and water snares and make them last as long as a ele could without running your points to thin to make them any useful and you get to use your primary attribute and cast them faster then a ele can.

As far as bad elites goes I myself am going to have to vote with Keystone signet . Its not really worth your elite spot when in the same line of magic you have Mantra of inscriptions which works just as good if not better then it and has no bad draw backs like a HUGE recharge time.